Saturday, December 17, 2011

Celina Cass

11 Year Old Disappears From Home


From: Scared Monkeys :

11 Year Old Celina Cass Missing Since Monday Evening, July 25, 2011 in Stewartstown, NH


Eleven year old Celina Cass has been missing since Monday evening, July 25, 2011 when she disappeared from her Stewartstown, NH home. She was last seen at her home at approximately 9 PM. Investigators are saying that there are no indications that she ran away or signs of any struggle that she was abducted.

Kieran Ramsey, the supervisory special agent for the F.B.I. in New Hampshire said the agency has deployed its “Child Abduction Rapid Deployment Team.” She wouldn’t comment when asked why an Amber Alert was never issued for the girl, even though the FBI said it had enlisted a four- to six-person “child abduction rapid deployment team” to pitch in. Earlier in the day, state police Sgt. Sheldon Belanger, the lead investigator in the case, said Celina’s disappearance did not meet the criteria for an Amber Alert and wasn’t considered suspicious. Police were going through phone and computer records at Celina’s home, he said.


From ABC NEWS :
The community of West Stewartstown, N.H., mourning the death of 11-year-old Celina Cass, is still waiting to find out how the fifth grader died.
New Hampshire Assistant Attorney General Jane Young announced tonight that medical examiners had completed an autopsy on Celina's remains, but more information is needed.

"The death certificate indicates the cause and manner of death are pending toxicology reports and further investigation," Young said at a brief news conference this evening. Despite these findings, Young said, the Attorney General's office continues to investigate the death as suspicious based on "a visual observation of Miss Cass' body both in and out of water."

Celina's remains were discovered Monday morning in the Connecticut River, not far from her hometown. Several hours later, around 5 p.m., her body was pulled from the water, Young said. Officers set up a tent this evening near the hydroelectric dam where divers found Celina's body and set up orange markers in the grass leading to a railroad trestle, The Associated Press reported.

"We're continuing to look for any evidence that may be there," Young said, adding that investigators are still interviewing witnesses. When asked if West Stewartstown is in any danger, Young said, "We remind the public to remain vigilant at this point in the investigation."

Despite the town's heartbreak over Celina's death, West Stewartstown will hold its annual children's festival, called Stewartstown Days, in honor of Celina.
"We're hoping this is going to be the first step in our healing process," a festival committee member told ABCNews.com.

The committee met this evening to continue planning the festival, which is scheduled for Friday and Saturday. Celina, was last seen Monday evening, July 25, at a computer in the home where she lives with her mother, stepfather and 13-year-old sister.
"Right now the family is in mourning. Everybody's shook up real bad right now," Celina's grandfather, Walter Laro, told the AP.

Speaking with the media Monday, Cass' father Adam Laro said his daughter was a kind young girl. "Very sweet, very outgoing, very generous to people. Lovable, trusting, you name it," Laro said. Celina Cass' Stepfather Wendell Noyes: Past Arrests, Strange Behavior Court documents obtained by ABC News reveal that Celina's stepfather, Wendell Noyes, has a troubled past.

Noyes, 47, was taken by ambulance to a hospital Monday after behaving bizarrely. ABC affiliate WMUR-TV reported today that he is out of the hospital. In 2003, the stepfather was involuntarily committed to a hospital because of schizophrenia and arrested for threatening an ex-girlfriend, according to court documents.
Noyes was charged with violating a protective order held by his ex-girlfriend and for criminal trespassing, criminal threatening and hindering apprehension. The girlfriend, who lived with her two kids at the time, said Noyes broke into her home while she was sleeping, lifted her mattress and slammed it down and then threatened to throw her down the stairs.

While awaiting trial, a judge ruled Noyes incompetent to stand trial and ordered him to be involuntarily placed in a hospital. Judge Richard Hampe wrote that Noyes' mental illness creates "a potentially serious likelihood of danger to himself and others." A forensic examiner deemed Noyes a paranoid schizophrenic who likely developed his mental illness while in the Air Force, according to court documents.
So far nobody, including Noyes, has been named a suspect in Celina's disappearance and death.

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UPDATE:
The authorities have revealed the presence of a second man in the home, a man with a police record. If I had known this, at the time, then I would not have assumed the only male was the stepfather. Please keep this in consideration as you read this post. It may still, in fact, be the stepfather, but we cannot assume this. Please consider that references to the stepfather refer only a male in the home and that this man may actually be the roommate. Thanks!

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ORIGINAL POST:
I realize that this girl has been found dead and that they suspect the father in the case because he has a history of mental illness. I still think something can be gleaned from the charts, if even only for teaching purposes, and perhaps even some more clues will be revealed as well. I am the type of person who rejects judgement and criticism out of hand and likes to make those calls myself rather than rely on rumors or hearsay. So they think the man is nuts and he killed this girl. This may be true. But I like to make sure, in case it's a judgement made for the wrong reasons and the man is innocent. So I will have a look.

Right away, the charts for the time she was last seen are pretty telling. Based on traditional teachings, the child will never be found alive if the fifth house ruler or Mercury is in the third, seventh or ninth houses. Here you can see the Moon, which is the fifth house ruler, in the third house. Also, since the first house ruler signifies her parents, a square or opposition from the ruler of the fifth to the first house ruler would indicate a reunion was not going to happen. Although these aren't the strongest aspects, the square from the Moon to the first house ruler, Neptune, is waning while Mercury in Leo is sinister to an opposition with Neptune but from different signs. These mitigating factors lessen the intensity of these aspects so I would venture a guess that perhaps this indicates the body would be (was) found, which is a reunion of sorts but not the desired kind. I am not sure that this makes sense to the reader but I think it works in the chart. Anyways, we know that Celina has been found dead and this seems to support that. In this regard, I am going to work with the charts, assuming they are viable.




The time when Celina was last seen was at 9 pm, when watching movies with her mother, according to testimony from her mother. But looking at the charts more closely may give a different story. The mother is shown by the first house ruler, Uranus, which is in the first. This shows that mom was where she "usually is", in her own space. Uranus is disposed of by Mars in Gemini in the fourth, which tells us that her "usual space" is actually her home. So she is home at 9 pm, as she claims. The disposition of Uranus by Mars tells me that she is home having a verbal argument with someone. Mars does not tell me who that someone is. The sign Gemini is ubiquitous, hinting at children but not being direct. Mars does not rule an angular house. I cannot say for sure who this woman is arguing with but I can say that she is not happy. Celina was the second child, the youngest daughter, so her marker would be the ruler of the seventh house. This is also the ruler for her step father, who is her mother's partner. Sun rules the seventh and is placed in the sixth. See also that Mercury, the standard marker for children, is in the seventh house. The Moon, the chart co ruler, is disposed of by Mercury, as well. There is no doubt in my mind that Celina was, at this time, with her stepfather and not her mother. Notice the seventh house ruler, the Sun, which is often the hyleg, is in the sixth house. This is a poor prognosis for both Celina and her stepfather. Somebody is in every bad shape and it is a traditional marker for a child who will never return.

The Sun disposes of itself in the sign Leo and has great power in this chart. This shows how strong the stepfather was in comparison to this child and how much control he had over her and her well being. Especially in the sixth house, where it shows us that he is likely sick and it is a known fact, according to all sources, that this man suffered from mental illness. The Moon and Mercury, the traditional markers for the child, show us that Celina is on the brink of a major change. This is shown by Mercury in the last two degrees of the sign Leo and moving swiftly (fast in motion) towards the next sign, Virgo. I do not think he had Celina elsewhere, I believe he had her in the home and that maybe this was the source of the argument the mother is engaged in. They are fighting over Celina (Mars in Gemini disposed of by Mercury) while he has taken her hostage, perhaps merely by holding her or locking her in "his" area of the home. Neptune in the first, closing in on the Ascendant, could mean that there was something the mother knew nothing about and this had just been revealed... or she was beginning to suspect. Neptune in the first house, in the first degree of the sign Pisces, closing in on a conjunction with the Ascendant is a powerful planet in this chart. Something secret or hidden was a part of this event as well as religious or moral beliefs. Something is discovered that goes against the religious or moral beliefs of the mother. I cannot say for sure that the step father was molesting Celina, even if that seems likely, because the charts are not saying that. They are merely hinting at secrets.




And then in the chart for 10 pm, you can see that the Moon has moved into the third house. The seventh house ruler, Mercury, is still in the sixth, showing the girl with her stepfather. The first house ruler, Neptune, which is the marker for her mother, has moved into the twelfth house. Uranus is still in the first house, disposed of by Mars in the fourth. She is still arguing and resisting her husband and what he is trying to do with her daughter but she is impaired somehow. Perhaps she has been drinking, has been given or is taking drugs, is just unwitting? Notice in this chart how Mercury, the marker for both Celina and her stepfather, is disposed of by the Sun, now in the fifth house? I do not see overwhelming markers for sex but I do note that Mercury is also conjoined to Phecda, a fixed star describing sex addiction. The conjunction is within minutes of being exact. Another red flag is the conjunction of Mars in Gemini to the fixed star Al Hecka, which describes pedophilia and sexual deviation. This, also, is within minutes of being exact. Mars is the marker for the argument between the mother and stepfather so perhaps he had a sex addiction or a history of pedophilia? I am not sure. But the charts are talking a lot about it at this point. So perhaps the molestation had been revealed, as Neptune hints at secrets revealed, and this started the argument? And then this is why he took this girl hostage and took her away? Perhaps. And the chart for 10 pm shows the girl being taken in a car.


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In the chart for 10:30, the child's marker, the Moon (now ruling the fifth house) is in the second house. Mars is in the third. Uranus is right at the first house cusp and is disposed of by Mars in the third. So perhaps the mother tried to follow them? Did they have a second vehicle? Could she have done this? Even if she didn't, I am pretty sure the charts are saying that she wanted to. Anyways, the second house describes a small area with woods or, at the least, well planted. Medium sized trees with small animals, mostly turtles and snakes, crawling animals but not so many with hands like squirrels or raccoons. Mostly slow moving earth creatures. And not many of them, sparsely around the area. Mercury remains in the sixth so the child is in bad shape. Somehow she had been crippled or injured. She is not dead and there is no death pattern in this chart so it is safe to assume that she died later on and somewhere else. There is no water in this chart. So this is somewhere he took her and parked, perhaps to do his business with her. Mars in Gemini in the third has other implications, one of them suffocation or strangling. Mars is exactly sextile to a fixed star, Alfard, which is also within a few degrees of conjunction to Mercury and this star often means asphyxiation or strangulation. It almost looks like he strangled her in the car and then disposed of her later. She was not left in this park. She is still in the car. And she is not dead yet.




In fact, the chart for 11 pm shows her back at the home. In this chart, the seventh house ruler is Venus and it is entering the fourth house. This is a marker for the step father (the mothers' partner) and Celina (being the second born child). The first house ruler, Mars, is in the third house, showing us the mother either in a car herself, going through or using the stepfather's car or doing something with the car after it's parked. The third house ruler, Mercury, is at the cusp of the fifth house. The fifth house would describe an unattached parking area near the home. Is this the mother cleaning up the evidence from a rape of her daughter? I cannot say for sure but the charts are describing a scenario that fits. Was this something her husband had been doing? Taking Celina off in the car for sex? Was that his way of hiding it? It's possible. And now that her mother knew about it, things were changing quickly. They argued about it but he went ahead anyways. He even brought Celina home afterwards. Moon in Gemini ruling the fourth tells me this was not a permanent residence. It was either an apartment, a trailer, a short term rental, a vacation home or a manufactured home. This type of home is either movable itself or has many people moving in and out. I would like to know if they owned their home because if they did and it was a brick and mortar then I would want to know if they had another home somewhere else (Gemini indicating more than one home) or if it was a duplex (two homes in one).

Moving the charts forward I see that the death of Celina is shown in the chart for 1:30 am. She was dead by then. Although the charts have trouble indicating the exact time here on Earth, when they show death at a specific hour then we can assume she was killed around that time or earlier. Although the charts are never static and time can be hard to pin down, they usually reflect "as above, so below" and give death patterns in line with reflected time on Earth. The death pattern in the chart for 1:30 am is pretty strong. There have been small indicators of danger and possible death in the charts for earlier times on that evening but this is strong enough to be taken seriously. Celina's co rulers, the seventh house ruler, Jupiter, and the Moon, are in both in the twelfth house. The twelfth house shows the end of life and describes the coffin. Mercury, the traditional ruler for children, is in the fourth house, which is a death house, and Pluto, which is a marker for violence, in the eighth house, also a death house. Pluto is not an angular ruler and has no real power in the chart, it is disposed of by Saturn, which is the traditional ruler for the dead body (rules the bones and the passage of time. Capricorn also rules our arrival at the "pearly gates" where we stand judgement for our sins). Pluto in Capricorn in the eighth house is a karmic placement and can't be ignored. Saturn, her body, is in Libra in the fifth. I believe she died at home in a bedroom. The Moon sinister to a trine with Saturn in air signs describes suffocation or strangulation. The fixed star, Vindematrix, near to Saturn in Libra, is an indicator that this may have been an accidental death. But then Moon directly opposite the fixed star, Kelb Alrai, describes poisoning. Neither of these aspects are exact, although they are only separate by a degree or two. So, I look at it this way: The moon is sinister to Kelb Alrai and Saturn is dexter to Vindematrix so I give the power to Kelb Alrai. And this combined with the numbers of fixed stars in the area of Gemini near to the first house Mars all pointing towards sexual deviation, pedophilia and rape, I cannot help but think this murder was about that. She was murdered because she was being raped, most likely by her stepfather.




So I am sorry to say that this girl was not abducted by a stranger and neither did she run away. She was murdered there, near her home, by someone she knew. I realize the charts are describing the mother and stepfather and the stepfather is the focus of the police investigation, but they have been unable to prove that either one of them did this. All I can say at this point is that the charts are not contradicting what the police are saying. She was killed by someone she should have been able to trust.

Tuesday, December 13, 2011

Heaven LaShea Ross


Little Girl Disappears on Walk to School Bus




From AMW :

Heaven has been missing since August 19, 2003.

On the afternoon of December 18, 2006, the Tuscaloosa County Sheriff's Office was alerted to an abandoned house in Holt, Ala. Deputies arrived at the house and found the place falling apart. They picked through the home and discovered human skeletal remains. Police say they quickly uncovered clues that suggested the remains belonged to Heaven Ross. Heaven had been abducted from the nearby town, three years earlier.

On Aug. 19, 2003 --a hot and a humid Tuesday morning-- 11-year-old Heaven LaShea Ross hugged and kissed her mother, Beth Lowery, as she left their home at the Willowbrook Trailer Park in Northport, Ala. Shea, as her close friends and family called her, was anxious to join her older sister at the bus stop, which was less than 100 yards from their home.

But little Heaven never reached her destination.

Beth and her husband, Kevin Thompson, notified police after the little girl disappeared and volunteers, helicopters and the Northport Police Department's canine units began an immediate search of the neighborhood and the surrounding area.

Police say a neighbor, who lived a few doors down from Heaven's home, saw her walk by. And another neighbor, close to the bus stop, says she didn't see the child at all.

Yet, somewhere between their two houses, Heaven disappeared. If the three cases are connected, they could be hunting a serial child killer.

From Tuscaloosa News :

Timeline

2003
Tuesday, August 19 | Last seen by family members at 7:00 a.m., Heaven Lashae Ross reportedly disappeared somewhere between her house in Willowbrook Trailer Park and a bus stop on Hunter Creek Road. Photo and information was added to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children list.

Wednesday, August 20 | The FBI joins Northport and Tuscaloosa Police and Tuscaloosa County Sheriff’s Office in search.

Thursday, August 21 | Day three of the search turns up no clues; volunteers hand out fliers; reward money is raised.

Friday, August 22 | Northport Police Chief Billy Galloway appeals to the public to come forward with information; reward money totals over $10,000.

Saturday, August 23 | The Texas-based Laura Recovery Center dispatches over 60 people to join the search; reward money surpasses $60,000

Monday, August 25 | Police continue to search Willowbrook Trailer Park with tracking dogs from Escambia County in Florida. Volunteer headquarters are set up; a candlelight vigil is held in the evening.

Tuesday, August 26 | FBI agents separate the mother, step-father, sister and brother to have them fill out questionaires

Thursday, August 28 | Beth Lowery reports that the stepfather of the missing girl passed a polygraph test given by police

Friday, August 29 | Beth Lowery reports that she has passed a police-administered polygraph test.

Saturday, August 30 | A bulletin aired on FOX television program America’s Most Wanted produces no major leads.

Monday, September 1 | Police spokesman said searchers searched several areas on Sunday; reward is $65,000 for girl’s safe return.

Friday, September 12 | Police close command center used in search for Ross.

Friday, September 19 | Police question Evin Ryland who was picked up in Texas

Friday, September 26 | Missing girl’s bedroom damaged by morning fire; it was later ruled ‘suspicious.’

Wednesday, October 1 | Disputes over money and cooperation caused volunteers to part ways with missing girl’s mother.

Sunday, October 5 | Interracial parents find little solace, blaming it on racial prejudice.

Friday, October 26 | ‘Dateline’ aired Ross story.

Sunday, November 5 | Mother and stepfather arrested in a domestic dispute and released on bond.

2006
Thursday, August 17 | Police link disappearance of Ross with two other abductions from trailer parks; incidents were two years apart within one week in August.

Tuesday, December 18 | Police respond to a tip and find skeletal remains in an abandoned house in Holt

From Tuscaloosa News:

A grim discovery Monday afternoon provided some answers to the three-year-old mystery of what happened to Shae Ross.
But the mystery is far from being solved.
Police found remains of the 11-year-old in an abandoned house down a rural, dirt road in Holt Monday afternoon. She was last seen walking to her bus stop on a rainy Tuesday morning in August 2003.
The news left her family and the community that prayed for her safe return heartbroken.
“This has given us some kind of closure from not knowing anything,” said Shae’s grandmother Carol Rowell. “The only question we have now is why. Why would someone do this to her?”
Sheriff’s deputies had closed off Creek Road Tuesday while homicide and forensic investigators combed through the abandoned house. Creek Road backs up to Hurricane Creek and is off 44th Court in Holt.
Donald Pearson has lived nearby for 33 years and said that the tree-lined dirt and gravel road has always been a magnet for questionable activity.
He said that people go there to use drugs and he’s heard that prostitutes occasionally frequent the isolated road.
“It’s gotten worse in the last 10 or 15 years,” he said. “There is all kinds of stuff going on down there.”
He said that he recently walked down the road and looked inside the abandoned house. The porch had collapsed and the floors had fallen in, he said.


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This is the long, sad story of Heaven Ross. Her murderer has gone unpunished for this and, as we all know, if he did this once it is likely he has done it again, especially since he got away with this one. I decided to try to figure out what exactly happened and try to use traditional astrology to define the abductor in, hopefully, clear terms. The first chart I drew up was for 7 am, the time when Heaven left home that morning. Notice how Mercury rules the first and Heaven was a small child at the time. Mercury is in Virgo in the first house, showing the child to be on the move and headed out alone. Mercury is in dignity so the child was in a safe place, a place she was used to (first house) and a place where she regularly stayed. This was her neighborhood. The seventh house ruler shows us the next person she is about to meet and this planet is Neptune in the sixth house. Neptune is disposed of by Uranus which is right at the seventh house cusp. Mars is also at the seventh cusp, just inside the seventh house. This all comes together to tell me that this person is working in the neighborhood. Uranus describes freshly dug up ground such as you find in new construction but the sign Pisces describes water, perhaps underground. Was someone laying new pipe in the area? Water pipes, possibly being buried nearby for new construction? Mars at the seventh describes a "man's man" or working man. Neptune in Aquarius describes a "fleshy" person who may be thick and stocky and possibly muscular. Aquarius can also describe the roofs and eves of buildings, upstairs rooms, walls, shelves, hangers, etc... Neptune describes secret or hidden places, which combined with Aquarius can mean attics, dormers, upstairs closets, etc.. This all seems to describe new construction with freshly dug up ground either laying pipe for waterlines or wiring the homes for electric as Aquarius also rules electricity. So was this guy working on a roof in the area and seen little Heaven in the neighborhood in the past?





Pluto in the fourth house here describes something dangerous on the path ahead, right there in her neighborhood, near her own home. Perhaps in a nearby home, or home being constructed or renovated. The sign Sagittarius can describe horses and stables for horses but as a fire sign it also describes fireplaces and outdoor grills. Overall, it also indicates high, sloping ground. These markers should be looked for in trying to find the area where this house was located. Anyways, I see that the Moon, the chart co ruler, is in the ninth in Taurus right near the node. This describes how he got his opportunity to grab the child unseen. She wandered off the main road for a moment or two in order to examine an animal more closely or to visit with a neighborhood pet. She stepped into a wooded area or someone's backyard to do this. This is where he was able to confront her and snatch her. Moon disposed of by Venus in the twelfth, he was able to hide her and keep her hidden, most likely locked in a closet (Venus) or a cabinet, perhaps in the kitchen or bathroom (the Moon). Venus with the Sun and Jupiter, tightly conjoined in Leo, would indicate a place with gold trim, gold colors, gold metals, shiny, glittery in the sun. Perhaps there were gold faucets in the bathroom or gold trim or filigree on closets or cabinets. Leo also indicates this happened during the daytime hours, which we already know.

At 8:45 am, Mercury moves into the twelfth house. The Moon in Taurus enters the eighth. Mercury and the Moon are in close trine to each other, showing that this child most likely taken captive and hidden away. She didn't live long, as this is a strong death pattern. Venus in the eleventh opposing Neptune in the fifth is a good sign that the child was hidden somewhere and used for sex. The mutual reception between Uranus and Neptune seems to describe photography or photographic equipment. There may have been photos involved in this case. Neptune in the fifth disposed of by Uranus in the sixth with Uranus conjoined Mars and Mars ruling the eighth, these were sex photos taken for his personal use and was mostly a hobby and not a porn business or sex slavery thing. He was not making money from the use of this girl or any other girl. This was driven by a personal desire.




The abductor in this event is defined by Neptune in Aquarius. This gives him a technology fetish, where he collects tech items and likes to play with gadgets. He is fascinated by film, by movies, pictures, photo art, images and music. He probably has a large collection of entertainment items such as music recordings and movies. Neptune in Aquarius in the fifth shows a liking for pornography and an attraction to child porn. Physically, this person would be very attractive with a nice body. He would be obsessed with his physical body and probably exercises, eats carefully and even works out, may be into body building or sculpting. He may have an "adonis" complex, addicted to his own appearance. He may dream of performing in porno movies. He would have soft, curly hair (not frizzy or wild but cut neatly), light eyes and hair, sweeping brows, high cheekbones, the whole pretty boy thing going on. Long eyelashes, dimples, etc.. This man is very passionate, obsessed with sex and very young girls, jealous, with depraved tastes and bad habits.


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In the chart for 9 am, I see that the north node has joined the Moon in Taurus in the eighth house. This man is acting out a complex plan he has and going through motions. Taurus indicates ingrained habits that he cannot seem to break. Mercury trine the node tells us he has done this before with other girls and will do it again. It is a part of a lifestyle for this man. The Moon disposed of by Venus in the eleventh and square to Venus as well is a marker for someone who prefers to have sex with children he does not know. IF he has a daughter or a sister, she is safe. He does not fool around with relatives. Venus so close to the Sun tells me as well that he lives under the thumb of a powerful person in his life, someone who tells him what to do and intimidates him. He is literally afraid of this person, whether this is his father, his wife or a friend.




Mars in the sign Pisces in the sixth house and disposed of by Neptune in the fifth indicates that he uses drugs to enforce his will on his victims. He literally makes them helpless. Mars in Pisces in the sixth retrograde may indicate a paralytic type of drug, one that makes the girls unable to move or resist him. Also, Mars as the eighth house ruler in this configuration, tells me that he is also a necrophiliac and he likes to keep their bodies after they are dead. His plan is a violent one, no doubt, and this can be seen by the exact conjunction between the north node and the fixed star, Caput Algol, the most violent fixed star. The Moon is within 4 four degrees of both the node and Algol, giving double emphasis to this mayhem and because of this I would say her death was violent and sadistic. The disposition of Neptune, the marker for drugs, by the planet Uranus in conjunction with the fixed star, Fomulhaut, another marker for drugs and drug addiction, I think it is safe to say that drugs played a part in this event. This is either his addiction or the use of drugs to subdue his victims or both. Jupiter, which rules the fourth house in the chart for 8 am, is conjoined to the fixed star Pheada, a marker for sex addiction. One more reason to beleive that he has done this before and will do it again. He is not capable of stopping. And, finally, last but not least, is the opposition of the fixed star, Markab, to Mercury, the marker for the child. This fixed star often indicates death by shooting. It is possible that, after all was said and done, the child was shot.

Many of the investigators on this case beleive this might be a serial killer. There are several other similar cases in the same area of the country that may be linked to this one. I will attempt to locate those and chart those and compare them to this one. Look for these in a future post.