Monday, July 9, 2012

Frauke Liebs

Young Lady Disappears From Sports Bar

This from one of my readers in Germany:

"I would like to ask you if you had time to help in an unsolved murder case of a young woman. Her name was Frauke Liebs and she was born on 21 February 1985 in the vicinity of Paderborn (Germany). The exact time of birth is not known to me. Many people here in Germany have been investigating this unusual case. Unfortunately, there have been no results so far in the search for the perpetrator. There were no traces left of the crime and the police gave up the case. Maybe your help could lead to a new approach that may help to clarify the fate of Frauke.

On Tuesday, 20 June 2006 at around 11 p.m. the 21-year-old Frauke Liebs disappeared in Paderborn in a mysterious and so far unexplained way. On that day in the afternoon she met with her mother and her roommate (who had formerly been her partner) for dinner at a restaurant. While meeting them, Frauke received a text message from a friend who asked whether Frauke would like to come to the Irish pub and watch the soccer match between England and Sweden (world cup 2006) together. Frauke accepted the invitation and asked Christos (her roommate), whether he wanted to come too. As Christos still had to study at home he refused.

After the meal at about 9 p.m. Frauke was dropped off at the pub. Frauke's mother then drove Christos home. There, Chris noticed that he did not have the house keys with him. So Frauke’s mother took Christos back to the pub again to get the keys from Frauke. At the Irish Pub Frauke and her friends watched the World Cup match England vs. Sweden. Frauke was not a big soccer fan, so during that time she kept exchanging text messages with her friends until her cell phone battery was empty.

At around 11 p.m. Frauke said goodbye to her friends and went home. Whether she took a taxi or walked home could not be clarified. Supposedly Frauke had no more than € 5 (approx. $ 5) or less in her pocket. Her roommate Chris waited for her so he could open the door because she had no key. She never arrived at home ...


At 00:49 a.m. Christos received a text message from Frauke's cell phone which had the following content: "I’ll come home later. The match against England was not fun. LYL (love you lots) ."

In the following days, Frauke reported back:

06/22/2006, 10:26 p.m. /

Call to Chris: "I'm fine I'm coming home soon. Tell my Mom and Dad.“

06/23/2006 10:04 p.m. /

text message to Chris: "I am coming home today, I am in Paderborn"

06/23/2006 10:06 p.m. /

2 minutes after Chris got the above text message, Frauke’s older brother Frank called Frauke back on her cell phone and could talk to her briefly. However, she avoided his questions.

06/24/2006 2:22 p.m. /

Call to Chris:
"Frauke: I am coming home tonight. I am in Paderborn.
Chris: Are you hurt?
Frauke: No."

06/25/2006 10.28 p.m. /

Call to Chris:
"Frauke: I'm coming home today.
Chris: Are you at risk?
Frauke: No
Chris: Who is with you?
Frauke: I'll tell you later."

There was no call on 06/26/2006

06/27/2006 11:29 p.m. /

Call to Chris, Frauke's sister Karen overheard the conversation:
"Frauke: I'm fine
Chris: Is someone holding you captive?
Frauke: Yes ... No, No
Chris: You know that the police are looking for you?
Frauke: Yes, I’v been away for a week.
Tell Mom and Dad that I love them very much.
Chris: When are you coming?
Frauke: I do not know.
Chris: When will you report back?
Frauke: Can not say.
Karen: Where are you?
Frauke: Please do not ask me questions.
Karen: Are you together with other people?
Frauke: Do not ask ... I would like to be with you. "

That was the last sign of life from Frauke.

In Christos‘ opinion, Frauke appeared to be dazed, sleepy, intoxicated and tired on the phone. The last call is said to have sounded like a farewell. The calls had always been made from the vicinity of Paderborn, but from different locations (as the cell phone tracking showed).

On 4 October 2006, the corpse of Frauke Liebs was found near Paderborn. The body lay decomposed and strongly sceletonized in a small wooded area, not visible from the street."

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Before I get into this case, I have to ask my readers a few things. Some of the cases I am working on are in dire need of more info. Since my readers are a great resource of cases and the details of those cases, I thought maybe I'd ask you guys if you could help me. In the case of missing father, Carlos Diaz, I do not have a time for when he went to bury the pet. I am not sure if it is was morning noon or night. If you have that time and a link to a site that supports that time line I'd love to have it! Also, Jared Hannah's case fascinates me but it has the same problem. No exact time for when he was last seen on the highway. Was this late at night or earlier in the day? Help!! If you can. The Cody Haynes case has a wide timeline so a lot of charts will have to be done. Of the charts I've already done it looks like the timeline may be fabricated and the child might have gone missing much earlier than was reported. In the Adam Walsh case does anyone know around what time they were at the mall? I have some viable charts that could be used but I have to be sure they are within a window of time that fits the facts. Were they at the mall early in the morning or did they go at night? Does anyone know this? I was working on Corrie Anderson this weekend and I did not see an abduction. This doesn't fit the general belief about Corrie so I am thinking the charts aren't viable. They just aren't reflecting the known facts. I think more detail on the Anderson case would help me determine if the charts are actually working or not. If you know anything about the Corrie Anderson case, please send it along. Ok. Thanks.

I could not resist this case, this missing woman in Germany. Frauke Liebs. There are cell phone calls and times for those calls, which can be charted for more detail. The cell phone calls remind me of the Caylee Anthony case where I did charts for cell phone pings across many days and weeks. This one is not that quite involved but the idea of being able to chart many different events always excites me. So I was eager to give this one a shot. As you can see in the information given above, this girl was obviously abducted. She appears to have "gone along to get along", perhaps all the time believing she would be set free if she did what she was told to do. The conversations reported from the calls make it seem that she went along willingly at first. But what do the charts say? Let's look.

The chart for the time when she was last seen, 11 pm, at the sports bar, shows that she is in the company of a male. Notice the first house ruler, Saturn, in the seventh, showing her to be with others. The seventh house ruler, the Moon, is disposed of by Mars, which is conjoined Saturn. This grouping tells me that she was approached by someone who was among others there. The fifth house ruler, Mercury, is also in the seventh and is disposed of by the Moon. This describes people having a good time in a bar atmosphere (fifth house), conversing and meeting with many different people (Mercury) and among them is this person (Mars) who has approached our victim. Please note that the Moon in Aries is in the last degree of the sign, which means that something is getting ready to change. I believe it will be the person she is with. She starts out with her friend, watching the game, but the friend is moving on now and she is with this new person instead. The Moon is conjoined to the fixed star, Mirach, which often describes drunkenness or drugs. Would Frauke have hooked up with someone for drugs? Or was she drunk and made a bad choice? Or is it that her friend, the one she met up with there, is now too drunk or high and no longer reliable? It could be any of these but there is a reason why she went there to meet up with one person and ended up with another and this reason had something to do with drinking or drugs.

By midnight that night, the ascendants would change and this would change both the intentions of the subject and her friends as well as the location. The first house moves into Aquarius with Uranus in the first. At this time, the seventh house moves into Leo with the Sun in the fifth. This tells me that Frauke went along with this person willingly. The first house ruler in the first always shows the subject "in the driver seat" or, in simpler terms, doing what they want to. So she went along willingly. And seeing the seventh house ruler in the fifth, this was about having a good time. Perhaps it was drugs or more drink or it was a sexual attraction. Any of these is possible. Moon in the second house shows that she was concerned about money. But the Moon is disposed of by Mars, still in the seventh house, so this person has offered to pay for something. She is depending upon this other person to pay for something she wanted; whether this was a ride home in a cab is hard to know, it could have been drugs or more drink she was after. But she was going along because this person was paying for something she wanted or needed.

Just before 1 am, Frauke called her roommate. This was done from her cell phone. She tells him she is coming home and not to worry. The charts for 1 am show that her situation has changed quickly. Pisces on the first house cusp with Neptune in the twelfth house shows that she is being confined. Neptune is disposed of by Uranus in Pisces right at the ascendant. This was a total surprise for her. She did not expect to be abducted. She thought she was going along for her own purposes. She obviously still feels that things will turn out in her favor because she tells her roommate she is fine and will be "home later". The seventh house ruler, Mercury, is in the sign Cancer in the fifth house. This person is still partying in some fashion. He or she is enjoying this, either drinking, using drugs or having sex... all determined by the fifth house ruled by the Moon in Taurus. And now that the Moon has moved into Taurus we can see that things have totally changed, just as the charts predicted. Mercury in Cancer is close to the fixed star, Geida Prima, which indicates that this person may be a rapist. And with both the fixed star and the planet Mercury in the fifth (while Mercury rules the seventh), it is possible that Frauke has already been raped or that there are plans for this to happen. Either way, this is one reason why the course of events has changed so drastically and Frauke went from being a willing friend, going along, to a captured victim who cannot escape. The final marker for me is the placement of the eighth house ruler, Pluto, right at the midheaven. This placement shows the home of the abductor (tenth house is the fourth from the seventh) and Pluto there shows violence. That Pluto rules the eighth house is not a good sign. Neither is the disposition of Pluto by Jupiter, which is also placed inside the eighth.

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But we know that Frauke was not killed that night. In fact, the trail of phone calls that came from her over the next week, shows us that he held her for some time. Although I cannot say for sure, from the charts, that her abductor was a male or female, the sexual components here make me think this is a male. Mercury makes me think he is a young man, perhaps even a teenager. I will refer to the abductor as a male from here forward unless other aspects in later charts force a change. At this hour, 1 am, we see that the third house ruler is Gemini, a marker for phone calls. Notice though that Mercury is also the seventh house ruler, so she has made the call because he made her do it. She did it because he told her to. Also, at this hour, Neptune rules the first from the twelfth in the sign Aquarius. She is hidden in an upstairs room, the attic or crawlspace above the ceiling, in a closet (possibly on a shelf or behind the wall) or in some space just under or on the roof. It may be a place on the roof where there are radio antennae or other electronic or aeronautical apparatus. There may be an upstairs room in the home where pictures or videos are recorded. If so, this is where she may have been kept. Sagittarius on the tenth house cusp indicates that this building or home had upper floors. There may also have been a fireplace on the second floor and an area in the home where guns and ammunition were stored. There is a chance that the grounds had stables or that the homeowner or someone on the property owned horses. This is not a given but it is possible. The building itself may have been built on sloping ground that is higher than the immediate area. Look for a hospital or hospice to be nearby, a place with medicines and doctors tending to people who are dieing.

Following the trail of phone calls, I run the next chart for the next known call. This occurred on 6/22 at 10:26 pm. The content of this call seems suspicious to me, with Frauke saying "I am fine. I'm coming home soon. Tell my mom and dad." This seems like an effort to stanch any missing persons reports that might be made or to keep people from forming search parties. This is a clear effort to make people think she is fine and that this must be conveyed to her parents, who might be worried sick. In this chart, Capricorn is on the first cusp with Saturn in the seventh. Saturn is closely conjoined to Mars, which is the third house ruler. These are both disposed of by the Sun in the sixth house. The Moon rules the seventh house and is positioned in the fourth in Taurus. Moon is both conjoined to Venus and disposed of by Venus, which is also in the fourth house. This looks like Frauke was taken off in a car to make the phone call. This, I presume, was to throw off any tracers. If they had different locations for her calls they would never pin the actual location down. The ninth house shows us his vehicle (the ninth is the third from the seventh) so it is no doubt a white car (Venus in Taurus). Jupiter in Scorpio is disposed of by Pluto in the twelfth while Jupiter rules the twelfth. This combination is an omen that tells me he takes her out in the car as a part of the overall plan to kill her. The phone calls she makes are a part of that plan.

The presence of Venus with the Moon in the fourth shows an obsession with women and with the end of life. Both Venus and the Moon are closing in on a conjunction with both the fixed stars, Pleiades and Caput Algol. Both planets have just moved away from a conjunction (dexter) with Algol and are either exact (Venus) or closely sinister (the Moon) to a conjunction with the Plieades. This is a standout configuration which portends violent death. At this same hour, Caput Algol is right at the nadir, opposing the midheaven, assuring that this case would become a public sensation and would get a lot of media attention. This would become even more intense after the body would be found, as the horror of a violent death is always a headline grabber.

Mercury is the fifth house ruler from the seventh house, again making me think this might be a young man or a teen. Mercury is disposed of by the Moon in the fourth house, so it is possible that he lives with his mother or a sister. There may be other children in the home as well and probably younger than the subject. This could explain why he keeps her in an upstairs room and takes her out in a car to make the call. He may be successful in keeping her secret from his family. The presence of other people would force him to plan carefully so as not to be caught. If he killed her right away, it would increase the chances that someone would hear or see something that would raise suspicion. Pluto and Neptune have dominated the descriptors of her captivity, which means she was kept well hidden in a dark and filthy place, a place where no one else would go. There would be disgusting smells and possibly insects. It would not be a place in the home where his mother or sister would venture.

During her next text message, which was made on June 23rd at 10:04 pm, Frauke says "I am coming home today, I am in Paderborn". Of course, suspicions arise for me and I suspect that since this is a text message, perhaps she did not send it. However, her brother Frank, experiencing the same suspicions, called her right back on the cell phone and did speak to her, although briefly. And then there are three other tracked calls from her cell phone to her roommate over the next few days so we know she is alive. The charts, as well, have not shown a death pattern yet, although there are strong omens for violent death. In this chart, almost every single thing is exactly the same, except for the Moon. Again, it looks like she is forced into a car and taken off to make the call. The Moon is in Gemini now and has moved into the fifth house. The Moon still rules the seventh and marks the abductor. This tells me that their relationship has become a tense one. There are sexual overtones (the fifth house) but the conjunction of the Moon to the fixed star, Aldebaran, indicates agitation; danger, loss, and probable violent death. Another dark omen. He's getting tired of her and is planning her death. When she makes these calls, she is reading from a script. Her marker, Saturn, is in 9 degrees of the sign Leo, closely aligned with the fixed star, Asellus Australis, which indicates she is becoming uncooperative and self willed. She is in constant horror of what is happening to her and she does not relax. They say she seems spacy or drunk when she makes the calls but from looking at the charts I tend to believe it is because she cannot sleep. The charts describe a dirty, buggy, smelly and dark place where this girl is being kept, not exactly the kind of place where someone would be able to shut their eyes.

The pattern that has developed here finally breaks on the 24th of June. This phone call comes in the afternoon instead of 10 pm, as it had been coming. During this call, Frauke says " I am coming home tonight. I am in Paderborn." Her roommate asks if she has been hurt and she says, no, she has not. Now, the cell phone tracking verifies that she remains in Paderborn the entire time, simply calling from different areas. The charts show her being in a car, which would explain the multiple locations. In this chart, the seventh house ruler, Mars, is in the tenth house conjoined to Saturn, the fourth house ruler. They are at the abductors home when this early call is made. Pluto is in the third house, disposed of by Jupiter, the third house ruler with Jupiter in the second. Perhaps they are running out of minutes on the cell phone so the call was made from the house? I would like to know the tracking on this particular call. Also, it is possible that people who are at home at night are not there during the day, allowing more movement for Frauke and her abductor. I see that the tenth house ruler, the Moon, is in the sign Gemini and placed in the ninth house. This is a further descriptor of the home. It appears to be in two parts, a main house, perhaps, with a mother in law house? Or there are two separate floors that are accessed from separate doors? No matter, this house is in two parts and this man is keeping Frauke in one part while the family lives in another. The ninth house indicates that the garage may be the only shared area of the home and that otherwise, the second portion is unaccessible from the first. This would explain how it was possible for him to keep her there without alerting the family.

The first house ruler, Venus, is in the eighth house in the first degree of the sign Gemini. There are no other indicators of death so this is not a part of a death pattern. As well, we know that Frauke is still alive due to the phone calls. So Venus in Gemini in the eighth does seem to hint at sexual activity but the sign Gemini indicates something of a more intellectual variety than physical and the placement of Uranus in the fifth also indicates something rather unusual. Uranus is disposed of by Neptune so the activity is rather perverse. The disposition of Venus and the Moon by Mercury in Cancer in the tenth, there is a strong indication that there were children in that home and they were used in this sexual activity, too. Perhaps he was using both the kids and Frauke at the same time? I am only saying this because they appear to mingle in this chart. It may merely be that the children are present at various times and that, at this time in particular, they were present during sexual activity.

The next phone call arrives on the 25th of June at around 10:28 pm. We are back to the usual pattern of calling at 10 pm. This creates a chart similar to the ones that occurred on earlier days at 10 pm. This is because the sky pattern doesn't change that much during a few days period except for the Moon and some of the faster moving planets. Also, at the same time during the same time of the year, the same signs are ascending and descending. During this call, as the others made at 10 pm, Capricorn is rising. Saturn is in the seventh with Mars and Mars rules the third house. They have gone back out in the car to make the call. So something was different on the 24th of June when the call was made during the day and from the home. This call is very similar to the earlier ones. She is taken in the car and made to call her roommate, reading from a script. But there is a very different aspect in this chart that portends real trouble for Frauke. The seventh house ruler, the Moon, is now in the sixth house under the Sun's beams. He is beginning to realize that he might be caught and he knows he is in danger. He knows that if he doesn't do something with Frauke soon, he could end up dead or in jail. The Sun disposed of by the Moon so he knows this is his fault, he is sane enough to realize that this is his own doing and that what he is doing is wrong and that he could be punished for it. He knows that he is in danger because of his own deeds. The node is disposed of by Neptune, which is in Frauke's first house. The need to hide her and keep her hidden has been paramount up until now. Notice also that the eighth house ruler, Mercury, is in the seventh house, which tells us that he is thinking now about killing her. Mercury is disposed of by the Moon, the seventh house ruler, so he knows that this is up to him. His fear is starting to push him along. But, from the nature of these placements and aspects in this chart, I would venture to guess that he had never done this before, that he is young and even possibly very young (a teen) and had not killed anyone before. This was a first for him. That would be my personal take.

And the buildup of fear in the chart dovetails with the facts. There is no phone call on the 26th of June and the next call made, on the 27th of June at a later hour than usual, would be the last anyone would hear from Frauke. Her body was not found until the fall, where it was badly decomposed and skeletonized. I am not sure what the cause of death was found to be by the coroner but I am thinking maybe the charts will reveal a death pattern. I can usually find clues to the cause of death through the death pattern. So I draw up the last chart, for the time of the last call on June 27th. This one was later, it came through at 11:29 pm, which maybe tells us that he wasn't sure he was going to let her call again. Perhaps she begged him into it. She did talk for longer than usual, though, so perhaps she was told that this was it, that she was going to die So he may have given her one last chance to talk to her family and friends. To give her last testament, so to speak. The most telling statement, for me, is her saying "tell mom and dad I love them very much"... these are the words of someone who does not expect to see mom and dad again. In previous calls she had been terse and quick, only saying she was "coming home". In this message, it is obvious that she no longer expects to come home.

The chart for this call is very different. Notice that the seventh house ruler, the Sun, is in the fifth house. Her abductor is preoccupied. Perhaps he is getting high or drinking alcohol? The fifth house can indicate activity with children so perhaps he is putting the other children to bed? The fifth house also shows bedrooms. At this hour, notice that the first house ruler, Uranus, is in the first house and that the third house ruler, Venus, is in the third, along the nadir axis. She is just outside the home making this call on her own. This time, she is not being forced or being told what to say. She is alone. Notice how the Moon is together with Saturn in the sixth house. This describes servitude or enslavement. Mars is strongly angular, right at the seventh house cusp, so the abductor may be preoccupied with orders from others. He is doing something that was asked of him, perhaps a chore. Is it possible that this is a servant in a household and that he lives in servant's quarters? At this point in the charts, that explanation seems very plausible. He is living in run down servants quarters adjacent to the garage and he has access to the car at night, when he takes Frauke off with no one's knowledge. The main house and the servants quarters both have two stories. Perhaps in the servants quarters this second story is an attic and this is where she was hidden? The attic would be dirty and ridden with insects and have dank odors, no doubt. All of this fits the profile.

And so now I want to try to describe her abductor. I am pretty sure now that he is a young man living as a servant in servants quarters on a large property. There may be children in the main house for whom he is responsible and perhaps he is molesting them, as well. In the chart for the time of her abduction, the man who took her is described by the Sun in Cancer. He is probably not a solar Cancer so do not assume that he is born in the summer or that his behavior is typical of the sign Cancer. All this means is that the descriptors for Sun in Cancer apply to him in a general sense. This man is family oriented and lives with women. I thought at first this was a mother or a sister but I believe now that he is a servant in a woman's home. This is a matriarchial type woman, all business, successful and who has children of her own that need a nanny. The house she lives in is defined by Jupiter in Scorpio so it is very large, sprawling and has water ponds and pools on the property. There are outside fountains, a lake or spring on the property, wells that serve the main house, a large laundry and kitchen area. This young man works often in the kitchen and laundry. There may also be marshy land in or around the property with a vineyard adjacent to or right on the main property. There are outdoor sinks for gardening and perhaps an outhouse for the help ("servants").

As I said this man is young, perhaps a teen. He is small in size and can be very short in stature. There is something unhealthy about him, sallow, pale skin and sunken eyes, perhaps. There may be some bloating to the skin from an inadequate diet and there may be a peculiar gate due to difficulty walking. Dark hair with a possible blue or green eyes. This young man is shy and reclusive. He can be secretive and people are used to this, not prying. This young man has a great memory and he loves to hang on to the pictures, videos, letters and other memorabilia from his past. He cannot tolerate ridicule or criticism so we works hard to avoid it, straining for perfectionism in his work and crafts. He can be very crafty and artistic in nature, most especially with children, loving to make pictures, scrap books, handmade toys, etc.. for children. He acts even younger than he is, often like a child. He seems harmless and not worthy of much attention by those who know him.


  1. Adam was abducted from the Sears store at a mall in Hollywood Florida, July 27, 1981 across from a Police Station. 'Shortly after noon time', is the only time I am able to find. Maybe someone else has the correct time and address of the Hollywood Mall?

    Here is an interview with Reve Walsh, Adam Walsh's mother. A good read. Which tells of the photo's which the Police never developed but kept, found in Ottis Toole's vehicle. With Adam's face imprint in the back car carpet, and a child's bloody footprint found on the driver's side door. Carpet and car were 'lost by the police.

    Another link with details.

  2. Okay, I went on the hunt again and at this link you can find the approximate time Adam disappeared. And other information obtained from the different teenager's and the Security guard.
    Quote: "It is hard to determine the exact hour of Adam’s disappearance but it is sometime between 12:30 and 12:50" From the video games room found inside the Sears store at the Hollywood Mall.


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